Episode 205 – Becoming Legally Bold with Toya Gavin
In this week’s episode of the ‘Happy Lawyer Happy Life Podcast’ I had the pleasure of interviewing a wonderful lawyer from all the way over the other side of the world, Toya Gavin. I interviewed Toya in the week before this year’s US Presidential election so it sure was an interesting time to be talking and I concluded mid-interview that Toya needs to throw her had in the political ring for the future. Toya is one smart, articulate and thoughtful person and someone I learned so much from in just this hour.
Toya is of course a lawyer and has a background working in New York in criminal law. Life in #lawland has not always been easy for Toya and she shared openly with me the impact of many years of hard work culminating in a significant health event that left her managing depression and anxiety. As is so often the case though, that very difficult period in Toya’s professional life has led to her finding a new string to her career bow and these days she runs a successful online legal practice while also operating a coaching and consulting business, Legally Bold.
This is the perfect interview to see out 2020- it has something for everyone and my podcast silver lining for 2020 has been the chance to move some of these interviews online and connect worldwide with a bunch of amazing legal professionals!
Thank you for your continued support during the very strange year that has been 2020! I am taking a short Podcast break and will be back on the airwaves in February 2021. Have a wonderful Christmas Break and I wish you all the best for the New Year.
In this interview, Toya and I also chatted about-
- Toya joined us all the way from Washington DC and we discuss this beautiful city.
- If Toya was not a lawyer she would have been an entrepreneur, which she is now her side-hustle!
- Growing up in New Jersey, about 20 minutes outside of New York City.
- The Black Lives Matter Movement and the impact of living in a country built on slavery.
- Righting injustice and removing the barriers of generational prejudice.
- Entrepreneurs and Toya’s tips for how to make a change in the world.
- Changing the little things is what makes for the compounding difference.
- The truth brings light to everything and I vote ‘Toya for President’.
- Toya completed an engineering undergrad before the social rights aspect of the law drew Toya to study at George Washington Law School.
- The differences between engineering and law school, not only in practice but in the thinking process.
- Toya explains she completed her undergrad of 4 years, and then 3 years of law school ending in a six-figure education bill.
- The differences between Individual Rights and the Collective Rights of our different nations.
- After leaving law school Toya took the bar exam and started working for the City of New York.
- Her time working as a prosecutor on criminal cases with the likes of Judge Victoria Pratt, who brought in the concept for a community court in New York.
- As a criminal lawyer, you meet people in their worst moments and Toya’s time working in the Domestic Violence Court.
- Several years after Toya started her own practice in New Jersey she had a breakdown and moved to Washington to be with her sister and 3 children.
- Toya intentionally took a break and found spending time with children eased her depression and anxiety.
- We discuss the legal field and the impact it can have on your mental health. If you’re not anxious you’re not lawyering- apparently.
- The reason for the culture of overwork, alcoholism and contempt between lawyers, all of which create psychological ill-health in law-land.
- Toya’s tips for managing your mental health being sleep and exercise!
- Seeing the disconnect between law and our personal lives Toya moved into the coaching space to challenge some of this thinking.
- ‘Legally Bold’ and the coaching work Toya has moved into and how she challenges people to question what they want for their lives.
- Navigating the pandemic, discrimination and personal growth all with courage.
- Toya’s Happiness Tip
Sit back and enjoy this interview with Toya Gavin.